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PEO Insider - July 1998
Taking Care of Business: Why Administaff's Well-Rehearsed
Organization Gets Rave Reviews From Wall Street to Washington
Witness a session featuring Kathleen Hillegas,
Jerald Broussard, or Richard Rawson and it's like having great seats
for a Broadway play - the orchestral hum of the speakers tuning
the mic, the palpable excitement of the members buzzing about as
they take their seats, the quiet hush as the speakers take their
place. It's a performance that features known talent who inevitably
get rave reviews from even the strongest of critics. Administaff
is known for its talent, and also for their talented director, Paul
Sarvadi.
Sarvadi has played the leading role for more
than a decade, carefully scripting their organic growth, approach
to insourcing, and recognizable brand name. Launched on April 1,
1986, Administaff has grown from a one-state operation into a $600
million public company with a nationwide presence. Along the way,
Sarvadi has cast some of the best industry talent in supporting
roles, ensuring Administaff's successful run.
PEO Insider sat down with the brain trusts behind
Administaff's operational, financial, regulatory, and marketing
success to learn more about the Administaff mission and the personalities
who shape it. We found it takes teamwork, a million frequent flyer
miles, a genuine appreciation of the industry (and each other),
and the bottom line belief, "We take care of your people so
you can take care of your business."
PEO Insider: After twelve years in the
business, you are considered an industry veteran. How did you become
involved, and what has been the biggest change since you started?
Paul Sarvadi: When I first heard the concept in 1984, I said,
"Someone should have thought of this 100 years ago." At
the time, I was the owner of a small to medium-sized business, and
the idea resonated with me. The biggest change is the potential
for success for the industry. Early on, it was a long shot. We were
changing the way business was done and challenging long held views
on employment. Today, there is no limit to what we can do.
PI: You were one of NAPEO's first members.
Why is membership in the trade association important to you? As
one of our largest members, do you feel you need NAPEO membership
as much as you did when you were starting up?
PS: There are always issues that can best be addressed by
a larger group of people with common interests. When companies work
together, you accomplish a great deal more. Though our needs have
changed, NAPEO membership is still important and valuable to Administaff.
When we were starting up, the main thing we needed was a sense of
community, of knowing others were out there trying to make it work.
Now our needs revolve around larger issues, such as H.R. 1891, in
which we join together for the good of the industry.
PI: What was your greatest or proudest
moment as president of NAPEO?
PS: My proudest moment was at the end of my term. Before
I became president, all of NAPEO's challenges had been external.
During my presidency, we faced internal challenges for the first
time. We had to decide how to move forward and how to manage the
association. There was a big difference in the position the association
was in when I began as president and when I left. We made our first
significant budget decisions and changed the way the association
was funded, the dues structure, etc.
PI: Administaff offers many services
that help small clients grow their businesses. How do these services
affect your clients?
PS: One of Administaff's core competencies is helping small
businesses see the role human resources management plays in their
success. We perform the full spectrum of what a proactive HR department
does for a company - recruitment, selection, training, performance
management, development of compensation plans, and the like.
Clients are pleased with our services. In surveys,
91% of our clients say they feel our service is a good value, and
99% refer us to other companies. The average number of times a client
refers us is seven. Forty percent of our client base has originated
from client referrals.
We want to provide the best of both worlds for
our clients - the benefits and services of a large company and the
working environment of a small business. We always ask, "What
other things can we bring to increase the value for the client?"
We recently arranged a partnership with Dell computers to bring
the hottest computer technology to our employees. Not only do clients
and employees get a discount, but they can pay for the equipment
through special financing arrangements and payroll deductions.
PI: As an industry innovator, what are
you most proud of?
PS: I am most proud of the success of our client base. What
we set out to do has occurred at the client level. Many people refer
to PEO services as outsourcing, but it is a combination of outsourcing
and insourcing. You cannot outsource something you were not doing
before. You may outsource payroll administration, but you insource
human resources. We bring tools they did not have before.
PI: How do you think the industry will
evolve over the next ten years? What role will there be for small
PEOs?
PS: I think we will see an increased level of penetration
and an evolution in the breadth of service. There will always be
a role for small PEOs. There are approximately six million businesses
with less than 500 employees. Right now, we only have reached 3%
market penetration. However, I think the small players will function
best as local niche players.
PI: Do you think we will see a brand
name PEO?
PS: Administaff has had a game plan to become the first distinct,
recognizable brand name PEO. Our advertising efforts have focused
on that. Nothing we do happens by chance. Our success requires careful
planning. We had to carefully position ourselves to become the only
PEO traded in the New York Stock Exchange.
PI: How would you describe your growth
strategy? What are its advantages and disadvantages?
PS: We have chosen to grow organically through expansion
as opposed to acquisition. We did one acquisition, but when we looked
at the cost and our ability to control the process, we felt our
best bet was to grow organically. All the growth we have accomplished
has been part of a predetermined plan to have 90 sales offices in
40 markets. Right now, we have 21 offices in 13 markets. Altogether,
though, we have a service footprint in every state.
PI: Whom have you admired?
PS: The person I admire the most is the man who split time
- Jesus Christ. He motivates and inspires me. I have also been inspired
by historical figures, especially ones involved with the founding
of our country - George Washington, Ben Franklin, Haym Solomon -
people who make a difference.
PI: What is your personal or professional
motto?
PS: There is a saying I use often: "Half of being smart
is knowing what you do not know." You always have to be willing
to learn. Several other thoughts guide me as well: We hire people
for their input not their output. Work to live, don't live to work.
And, of course, there is Administaff's slogan, "We take care
of your people so you can take care of your business."
PI: We love to hear how people became
involved in the industry. What is your story?
Richard Rawson: In the eighties, I had a business that provided
consulting, computer, and accounting services for small businesses.
I heard of the PEO concept from Paul Sarvadi in 1984. I then tried
to sell PEO services to my client base. In 1989, Administaff hired
me as a consultant. During the next four months, the amount of work
I did for them grew until I was hired as their CFO in 1989.
PI: What are the unique challenges of
being CFO of a publicly traded company?
RR: The CFO of a public company is considered the "conscience"
of a company. That is not to say the CEO is not also a conscience,
but Wall Street looks to the CFO as the last word on the financial
stability of the company. Because of the Securities and Exchange
Commission laws about insider trading and disclosure of information,
the most challenging part of my job is to always disseminate information
evenly to all constituencies. I have to ensure that I do not give
any one person, in a phone call, meeting, or dinner party conversation,
information about the success of our company that everyone else
does not also receive.
PI: You invested a great deal of time
in NAPEO's Accounting Practices Committee, steering the effort to
create the NAPEO Financial Ratio Survey. What is the importance
of this survey?
RR: When I attended my first NAPEO meeting in 1989, I realized
the industry, because it was in a formative stage, had no financial
reporting standards. One of the most exciting things I have ever
done was chairing NAPEO's Accounting Practices Committee for four
years. We developed financial reporting standards and industry ratios
for PEOs to operate by. You do not often get a challenging opportunity
like that. Long before Administaff went public, I began teaching
Wall Street about the industry by using the financial standards
and ratios.
PI: You and Administaff's founders have
sought not only to build your company, but to build an industry.
Why is this goal so important to Administaff?
RR: First, I believe a true professional, regardless of whether
he or she has three, or six, or no letters behind his or her name,
inherently wants to give back, to share with others. Second, if
you really believe that PEOs are changing the way small businesses
operate, then you do not care as much about the details of how you
get there as long as you get there. This business is bigger than
life, that's why we have to continually move the industry toward
education and awareness.
PI: We heard the industry has become
a bit of a family affair for you.
RR: That's right. My wife, Dawn, works for Administaff as
director of community relations. She organizes the company's volunteer
program, through which Administaff employees participate in community
service programs. We have two daughters, and a few years ago we
began taking them with us to NAPEO's Sales and Marketing Conference.
It usually occurs right after school lets out, so we make it a family
vacation. For me, it's a way to combine work and fun and give my
daughters an opportunity to see what I do.
PI: When did you first hear about PEO
services? What sparked your interest?
Jerald Broussard: I had been in the investment business for
twelve years when a friend of mine told me about the concept. I
come from a family of small business owners, so I grew up with that
mentality. As a child, the way we earned our spending money was
not to get a job, but to start our own business. I sold produce
in a roadside stand. The entrepreneurial spirit is part of my experience.
PI: You were not an easy sell, though.
You spent a long time researching the industry before you joined
Administaff in 1989. Why the personal due diligence?
JB: The PEO concept invigorated me, but I was cautious about
getting into the business. I had seen many deals that were going
to "change the world" and then did not last three years.
In 1984, I began to research the industry, a process that would
take four years.
I met Jerry McIntosh and Paul Sarvadi before
Administaff was formed. We talked and continued our dialogue for
several years. The sealing vote for me, however, came from the clients.
I talked to fifteen business owners who used PEO services. Each
had similar negative experiences with their PEO. Some had lost their
deposit money; some had not had their health or workers' comp insurance
premiums paid. At the end of my conversation with each, I would
ask one question: Based on what has happened to you, under what
circumstances would you go back to doing business the way you did
before? Their answers were the same: "There is no way I would
go back." One man said to me, "Jerald, if I had to go
back, I would sell the company."
PI: As senior vice president of business
development, you were instrumental in forging the alliance between
Administaff and American Express. What is the importance of such
alliances to Administaff, and the PEO industry?
JB: The importance of the alliance to Administaff and to
the industry is similar for both. For us, it means we have partnered
with one of the greatest companies in the history of American business.
American Express' corporate culture is in touch with the needs of
small businesses, so the partnership made sense for us, since we
serve small business clients. For the industry, it further validates
the PEO concept and raises the water for all the boats. AmEx did
not enter this partnership casually; they undertook a lengthy due
diligence process. The alliance that was ultimately forged speaks
volumes about the value of the concept.
PI: You developed a system to sort you
client list by congressional districts so you could show legislators
how their constituents were positively affected by PEOs. What kind
of success did you meet with in this initiative?
JB: Well, it is true that I became a registered lobbyist
in Texas to help get a bill passed - however, that's not something
I ever told my mother. But yes, it was very successful. Our database
divided our clients into their congressional districts. We showed
the list to legislators to demonstrate the types of businesses involved
with PEOs. We also encouraged our clients to write to their legislators
about how important our services are to their business. This was
all part of a highly orchestrated team effort. The legislators,
for their part, were happy to learn such a service was out there.
Our services fulfill goals of their legislative agenda. Legislators
could see we are good for business owners and their families, good
for employees and their dependents, good for government.
PI: You have long been a crusader for
the "whole package" sale. You believe the industry should
be full-service, long-term, and value-oriented. Where did you learn
that philosophy?
JB: It came more from a "make sense" approach than
anything else. We are not there to show small business owners a
better way to handle comp, or health insurance, or unemployment
insurance. We show them how to remove themselves from the process
altogether. If you make those elements the primary piece of the
sale, you remove the focus - that you are trying to get him or her
out of the employment business in the first place. The focus should
not be on workers' comp but on the impact your services have on
the owner's and employees' lives.
Our industry has a tendency to apologize for
being paid for what we do. Yet, few services that a business owner
can buy have as great an impact as ours. No other service will be
good for the owners, the employees, their families, the health of
all involved, and the profitability and net income of their business.
No other service can make the impact of a well-run PEO. That's why
we're changing the way America does business.
PI: You are a living example of how Administaff
seeks to "build an industry." You assist PEOs with legislative
battles in states where Administaff does not even do business. Why
is this outreach such a priority for your company?
Kathleen Hillegas: It has always been Administaff's philosophy
to provide direction where we can. States often look to one another
in terms of legislation, with laws creating ripple effects in neighboring
states. If a law is passed in Illinois, a similar law will likely
be passed in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa. It behooves us to share
our expertise with any state facing legislative challenges.
PI: How many days a year would you estimate
that you travel? How many states have you visited?
KH: I travel about 150 days a year and have worked with about
20 states.
PI: What are the most common challenges
PEOs are facing at the state level? What have been some of the more
unique battles?
KH: The most common battles concern the employer status of
the PEO for the purpose of state UI and workers' comp policies.
The most unique issue I have ever come across thus far concerned
whether the PEO can be the employer for the purposes of prevailing
wage acts.
PI: Today, we see many legal specialties.
How difficult is it to be a generalist, to know a little about all
issues?
KH: I was not always a generalist, I had a labor and employment
law specialty, with a particular expertise in ERISA and employee
benefit plan issues. My background positioned me well for the work
I do at Administaff, but I had to learn the business issues affecting
PEOs - the business of unemployment insurance or workers' comp -
areas lawyers do not traditionally focus on. I did a great deal
of research and read every resource I could find. I am not an expert
in certain areas, such as the business side of workers' compensation
policies, but I know the issues.
PI: Who do you most admire?
KH: Professionally, the people I admire are the industry
veterans, the people who shaped this industry - Paul Sarvadi, Jerald
Broussard, Jerry McIntosh, Richard Rawson, Carlos Saladrigas, Lou
Basso, Mike Gatsas, Rex Eley, Marc Moore, Fran Morrissey. When I
first entered the business, I was surprised to see the level of
professionalism and knowledge these individuals brought to the industry.
They shared a vision for what the industry could be. They imposed
business ethics on themselves to ensure their viability and good
reputation.
For more information about Administaff, contact
the nearest office at 800-465-3800 or visit the company website
at http://www.administaff.com.
Reprinted with permission of PEO Insider, The
Official Publication of the National Association of Professional
Employer Organizations.
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